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Hello, I wanted to let you know about a slew of scam profiles posted as bait in AmericanSingles.com. Scammers are using for their mail Crosswinds.net, also may be Bigfoot.com or any other free service. The postings from Ukraine, in particular Lugansk are a mine field of scam profiles. The agency of Translation will contact you with your first or second letter requesting money for translations. Be warned. I have hit on several, mostly for fun after I was taken the first time. These are not real women....its Yuri.
Hello, My name is Steve, I am from the U.S.A. and I started to correspond with a women in the Ukraine, I did however run across your site after the first letter and was a lot wiser after that. I picked a girl from the AOL personals who called herself " email@example.com. (Elena Kiseleva). Her profile was nice and she appeared to be a sincere woman. I became suspicious after her response telling me that she had not corresponded with anyone else before and that I should ask her what ever I wanted to know, because she was new to this, assuring me that she was an honest person and would only answer honestly no matter what. So after a second response from her with no answers to the questions I had asked and after reading your site I decided to try something to see if she was genuine. I wrote to her under another name and found out that the responses to that name were exactly the same form letters that I had been receiving when I wrote her my original real name. I continued to do this about 4 more times and each time each response was the same even though I had asked different things under the different names. She sends the same letters to everyone, in the last one I and My other name were sent an address , which is a P.O. box in Odessa and a telephone number for her "Mobile Phone " . This letter once again was very vague, and again not answering anything specific that I had asked, I am grateful to you for your website and think everyone should read it before they fall into something that they believe is an honest relationship..
I would like to warn other men about a woman, Elena Kiseleva, from Kremenchug in the Ukraine. In February of 2000 I went to Kremenchug
after corresponding with Elena for 4 months and had a great time while I
was there. I should have suspected and I guess I did but was blinded by lust
because within 4 hours of meeting her for the first time we were in bed.
After I got back to the U.S. I started the finance process and everything
was going fast and fine but then when the embassy in Warsaw got the application she started making excuses to wait, her ex-husband wanted to
take the kid on holiday then the place she applied for a visa stole her
money then she had to find her father that after I sent 150 dollars 3 different times through western union then she quit writing and I gave up
trying to contact her but I did not give up on the idea of getting a Russian
bride I just picked the wrong one so I joined KISS.com and I ran across
Elena's profile there and it had been there since she was writing to me her
kiss number is 2676639 and she also used the name Elena Trocenko. I
have seen 3 other women on this site advertised on the Peoplehelpers site.
I had already registered with an agency when I came across your site. I had just begun corresponding with a woman from Ukraine when in her 2nd letter she asked for money for correspondence. I said "no" and in her next letter she did everything from pleading to insults to questioning my manhood if I didn't send the money. I already knew she was scamming, but your site informed me of some other scams I hadn't thought of. I don't have her email address anymore, if I had known about your site earlier I would have saved it. Her name was allegedly Larisa Skorenko and was supposed to be from near Kremenchburg, Ukraine. Her partial email (from what I remember) was firstname.lastname@example.org sure the rest. I am now informing the agency and will see what their reaction is.
You write of not believing in people after experience with those two ladies. But how can I trust you? I wrote that I was once lied and can't trust just words, though they can be insincere and true. Our girls go to Internet - cafe to send letters to there Loved and only. They spend much money and time for it as Internet-cafe isn't close to their house. They can't afford all necessary things to send letters to their Loved. They also do not buy to their child things he needs. It can be sometimes fruits, milk, cloth... Do you understand it? And what happens next? This only and Loved man disappears forever without writing a word of the course. May be he found other woman or he just changed his mind. Who suffered in this situation? How do you think?
Dear Michael!! This money which are necessary for women are really the last ones. They are so necessary for their child's and her lives. At the same time for you, men they are really not the big sum of money. You want to say me that you want to feel yourself a real man, making her to spend all the money for corresponding but to reject herself in everything for her and her child.
Do you consider it to be not selfishness? I didn't like men who can't support woman, who want to have some women at once and who think that they are more clever then somebody. I hope this letter didn't offend you, my Dear! I'm sorry but you may have not think it over.
David! If you really want to help me with a payment of our correspondence, I will thankful to you. Transfer is better to do with system Western Union to my full name - Larisa Skorenko, town of Kremenchug, Poltava area, Ukraine. My adddress - 1905 str. 4-40. Our correspondence cost about 80$ in month. Next letter you must sent me cod transfer, your full name and sum.
Nice! I will be very happy if you love Nika. She is very beautiful child, so tender girl. I very love her and I have nothing in this life without her. I think that you understand, how is important your love to her. I kiss you and wait your letter.
Sorenko (Dyrty) / Poltava (Kremenchug)
PS The following information is what I've found concerning opening bank accounts; For Ukrainian list of corresponding foreign banks; www.brama.com/diaspora/credit, it lists several options. Also, Ellips Bank of Nizhny Novgorod www.ellipsbank.com offers online applications for new accounts. I cannot comment on the credibility of either site, and as you may already know, my sister does tell me it is illegal to take Russian or Ukrainian currency out of the country, it must be first converted to a foreign currency. People who consider opening an account should use discretion and the assistance of their own personal bank, and make sure the bank they deal with in Russia or Ukraine does have a 'US corresponding Bank' affiliate. Wire transfers of funds to Russian and Ukrainian banks is, according to my sister, quite common.
wrote you that our letting costs too much for me. That's why I shall
Mike! You think that I draw money from you. You even can't imagine how you offended me!!! I do not deserve such words, even if it is only your suspicion. I did not expect you to say such words. It'll be hard but I'll try to explain what I shouldn't do in fact. As you know people in our country earn little money. I'm not the exception. I have to bring my child up. If I pay for Internet-services, I'll not buy milk for my child and other necessary things for him. I can't afford such sum of money (80$ per month) for our correspondence.
wasn't easy for me to write it.
Below is a copy of an email from Tatiana
I wrote to this girl and the reply that was sent was obviously canned, every line of the letter had a in front as though it had been saved as a template. She never answered my questions, just told me details of herself and her son. Next letter was the same just telling me how difficult it was to live there and still no answer to my questions. The next letter I got asked me for money as her internet was running out and she needed $50 per month so she could write to me. I ignored this for a week and then wrote but I never heard from her again until she sent me a Christmas message online.
I looked on another site and saw her photo on this one too with the same email address Alina@vas.pi.net.ua. So I invented another email account and began writing to her.. Guess what??? I got the same letters from her that I had originally been sent. All that was different was the first three lines then it was word for word exact. So chaps be careful
Ian Brown*, UK
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