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Elena Egorova aka Elena Novoselova (Krasnoyarsk, Russia)

I am a single father of two. I am a white American, 32 years old and a health worker. I am recently divorced. I wrote emails and received emails for two months from email elenchick@fromru.com. She live in 10 Dzerhinskogo str., apt. 17,Krasnoyarsk, 660049, Russia. I was originally contacted from FriendFinder.com by the 'artist'. Our discussions were shallow and mostly based on her claims of coming to the USA. I was asked to pay for visa and for "urgent requests" when money was "out" and guilt driven language was applied to seduce my thinking. There were of course stories about "family" and life, just a little "truth" with the lies. The writer avoided anything with substance about reality of life. Just fantasy driven language for the weak and faint of heart. I refused this woman any of my money and she went away, stating, "what a pity", as did I state, "what a pity". I was called a "liar", when in fact I had told no lies. Too bad she was disappointed. Seems she is already traveling and rich from the schemes. Not all mafia is men you know.


Elena Filippova (Kirov, Russia)

I was contacted by this person through Yahoo Personals. After about a month of her romancing me she proclaimed that she wanted to come to America to be with me and have a family. She stated that she needed 160 dollars for a passport, 100 dollars for a visa and 120 dollars for travel to Moscow to obtain these documents. She origionally gave her name as being Elena Filipova. I sent her 400 dollars which she said she would pick up at bank just up the street from her in Kirov. I became suspisious when in her next letter ,that she had difficulty picking up the money transfer because her last name was Filippova, spelled with 2 P's. I then contacted Western Union and discovered that the money had not been picked up at the bank in Kirov she had given me, but that it had been picked up in Yoshkar Ola,in the republic of Mari El. I recieved a letter from her this morning stating that she is in Moscow and had applied for her passport and visa and had to stay,not in a hotel,but with an elderly woman to await her passport and visa. She has asked me to send her another 150 to 200 dollars for food and her travel to the embassy and to the airport when she recieves her visa on the 15th of june. Her details are: Komsomolkaya 16-39
Kirov, Russia 610001, elena_filipov@land.ru

 


Elena Gritsenko (Krasnoyarsk, Russia)

I have an Emode profile at Tickle Matchmaking, but I received a letter from "truecordelia9angel" before my profile was even finished or a picture posted. However, she sent nine messages before sending a very detailed description of how to use western union. I would take great care in answering any correspondence that progresses in this manner. I know there are real women out there, and it is a shame that people like this are out there as well. But I believe that what goes around comes around, and there is a special place for this one. In letter number 3 she talks about destiny, and I believe it is waiting for her. I hope this is helpful to the next person to read it.

Letters:

Hello, my name is Elena. It's the first time I have written a letter through the Internet. I've never done that before but finally I decided to try. It's spring now, the nature is awakening, everybody is happy to feel fresh breath of spring. But my soul is cold and it needs warmth and I need a person to melt my heart. I would like to try to get to know you better. If you are interested, please write a letter to my e-mail: elp_reh@front.ru I'll be waiting for your letter. Good luck and all the best. Bye for now.

Hi David. I am very glad that you've answered my short letter. Sorry that it took so long to answer you and I couldn't think that you would answer me. I don't know if you celebrate Easter or not but still Happy Easter! Sorry I didn't tell you I'm from Russia and I'd read a lot about acquaintances through the Internet. But I couldn't decide whether to write somebody or not. I frequently visited the Internet-cafe in our local library and looked through a lot of sites. And I've decided to write a short letter to you and to tell you the truth your answer came really unexpectedly. I was very, very glad. I want to tell you why I decided to do it. I'm looking for a friend and may be something more. I just realised I've been feeling really lonely and it's time I changed my life completely. I need a family, a loving husband and maybe a child. It's all because I'm lonely and I can't find understanding here in my city and I know that I can reach more in my life than many people think. I don't want to live in Russia and that's why I'm looking for a partner overseas. Certainly our city is large but it's such a problem to find a partner, I've decided to find a partner through the Internet and I happy to have your letter. Now I want to tell you a little bit about my city where I live and about myself. I'm 29 years old. I'm 172 cm, my weight is 54 kg. You can see me in the photo I sent you. By the way how do I look there? Do you like my photo? I hope it's nice. I live in the city of Krasnoyarsk. My city's on the picturesque coast of the huge Siberian river a Yenisei. Our population is more than 800 thousand people. You probably know that our city is the industrial and transport centre of Siberia. I was born and grew up there. I love our city very much because it is very dear to me and it's really beautiful. I'm an architect in a local building company. I've been working for almost eight years since I finished the institute. When I was a child I always wanted to become an architect. That's why I entered a build institute and after five years of training I finished it with the diploma with honours and I was offered have to work in the local bulding company. I hope that I've told you enough about myself so that you could who I'm and what I'm to. Could you also write to me? Where do you work? How do you live? For me it's very interesting to know your attitude to our country? Feel free to ask any questions and I'll try to answer each of them. Therefore I ask you not to get upset if you don't find my letters every day. But I'll try to write to make it somehow. That's all for now. I'm really glad you answered me. Your new friend from Russia, Elena.

I just want to learn more about you. For me it's trust that comes first. There should be mutual understanding, you should learn your partner's wishes and ambitions and besides you have to respect yout partner and be ready to make concessions. When I come back home after work and I'm alone I think of you. I believe it is wonderfull that two people have found each other. Sometimes I go to the gym and pool. It is pleasant to run in the mornings, but unfortunately I cannot do it as I don't have enough time to sleep. I would like to devote more time to doing some sport but I simply don't have it. I have to thank modern technologies and the Internet. But sometimes it seems that destiny plays with us. Do you belive in destiny? When I think about you I feel very warm inside. But when I realize that you're far away from me I become very lonely. I'm thinking of you. I would enjoy talking to you in person.

I often feel I'm constantly thinking of you. When I go to bed I think you're already awake working or maybe having coffee. I'm beginning to think of our meeting. Well I'll finish my letter now. Oh, I nearly forgot but I'm going to send you another photo of me in my next letter. Your friend, but can be more than just a friend, Elena.

Hi, my sweet David. I like your kind and gentle letters very much. I am very glad that I have an opportunity to read such warm words. In my mind thoughts are only about you. I miss you very much, my dear. I dream of our meeting. I dream of us. I want to look into your eyes and tell you so much. Imagine we walk along the street and hold each other by the hand. We talk, I am sure that we can talk about many things. Yes, I miss it. I talked with Nataly about it and she insisted that I find out if it is possible to meet you. And I decided to visit you. I'll write to you all the information that I will learn. I hope that you want to see me too. I think that we have to see each other and I'll do everything for our meeting. We should be together. It is destiny. Life gave us such a good chance and we can change it in a good way. It seems that if we lose this chance then we will feel regret about it. I really want to see you and I am very lonely here without you. After I had written to you my last letter I slept very badly that night. I could not fall asleep. The truth is that I am thinking of you and our meeting and I think that I can not live without you. I'm very lonely, my soul cries, it wants caress and love. My soul wants to escape and to fly through the ocean, reach you and your soul. I am very grateful that I found you. I found such a remarkable man. I worry very much and I am excited. When I write these lines my hands are trembling and my heart is beating fast. I hope one day a very important thing for both of us will happen and We will meet. One night I dreamt that we were happy being together. It was a very sweet dream because we were close and love tied us. You gave me tenderness and caress. I dreamt of how it would be great to be together. Dreams were so sweet, it is a pity that it was only a dream. I think that you will agree with me. It seems to me that you don't mind if I try to find out how to come to you. I went to see the lawyer. I want him to get my visa ready and all the documents as well. I also took a vacation, it's from May, 29 if nothing is changed. So I'm really going to see you. I will dream of you. I love you, I simply lost my mind because of you. My lunch break is over and I have to come back to work. Yours and only yours Elena. P.S. David, could you tell me what airport is close to your place?

Hi my beloved David. Thank you for such a kind and sweet letter. I've been thinking a lot about you and me these days. I've been dreaming how good it would be to meet in person and have fun. You know I made up my mind to come to you. I'm sick and tired of being alone and I want to have a rest. Today is the third day of my vacation, I got holiday from the first of June. I am so glad and happy. I went to my parents' place and spent some time there. I told them I am going to America, they just shrugged shoulders and said I'm old enough to take decisions myself. Yesterday I went to work and reported on the work done. Then we had a small party, drank some wine and toasted to my vacation. I'm so glad I don't have to go to work. I'm off work for more than a month. I think I'll be able to spend a week with you. But if you want I can stay longer. We'll see how it works for us. As I told you earlier I tried to learn more about how we could see each other. This morning I saw my lawyer and he told me that he had sent all the documents. My interview is on June, 7 and that's why I have to go to Moscow. He said I would get a visa as my documents are OK. He suggested I buy the tickets and show them in the Embassy. I think I'd better do that in Moscow as they are cheaper there. I applied for the tourist visa B-2 because my lawyer said that that's what my lawyer told me to do. its registration doesn't occupy much time and it is the cheapest and the fastest way. So, I can fly to you very soon. I'll try to buy the tickets for this weekend, that is June 8-9. Only few days are left and I hope we have a nice time together. Yes, I can stay with you for a long time if we decide so. My holiday would last for 42 days. I already bought tickets to Moscow. I'll go to Moscow today on the evening. I'm going by train and it will take 2 days, I'm coming to Moscow on June, 7 I'll buy the tickets and I will go to the interview. After that I'll tell you about my arrival (the time and the flight number). I really want to be with you. I want to see you badly and I can hardly wait for this moment. We like each other and we should be together. I hope that you think so too. I've got a question, I've counted the money which is supposed to be left, all in all $1000, is that enough for my trip? I'll be waiting for your letter. Take care and keep smiling. Your love Elena.

Hello my beloved David! How are you? Hope you are doing ok. Today was a bad day for me. Though I wasn't tired after the train I had to rush the whole day. You know Moscow is a very big city and I don't know anyone here. I miss you terribly and I can't wait till you and I wake up together holding each other tight. I came to Moscow and went straight to book tickets. All was going well. Then I went to the interview and this is where everything went wrong. The woman in the embassy asked me about my job and why I wanted to go to America, how long I would like to stay there. I said I would like to see another country as I had never been anywhere. I told her I'd heard a lot about America and decided to see everything with my own eyes. I said I wanted to spend 2 weeks there. She said OK and approved of my documents but added there are a lot of people staying in the country illegally. They work illegally and thus do harm to American economy. She wanted to know if I was going to stay and work in the country illegally. That was just awful. I told her that I have a job back in Russia which I like and if I wanted to stay in America I would everything as required. She said she believed me but I have to prove my financial solvency and asked to show my bank account which would testify to my ability to pay for accomodation, food, drinks and entertainment so all in all $1500. I asked her when I would have to show this paper. She answered it could wait till Friday, if I failed to do that my application would be rejected. I left the embassy feeling as if I had had a cold shower. I knew I have to borrow some money to show I have it and besides I have to change the date of my flight so I started doing it. I changed the date for June, 12: By Delta Depart 1:30 pm, Moscow (SVO) Arrive 3:30 pm, New York (JFK) Flight #31 then by Delta Depart 5:40 pm, New York (JFK) Arrive 8:41 pm, Seattle (SEA) Flight #1178 and then went to call relatives and friends from my city. Only my parents and Nataly agreed to help me. I had $760 on me(the air ticket is very expensive), my parents sent me $200 and Nataly sent me $100. So now I have $1060. But I have to show that I have at least $1500 but I do not have that much now, so I need $450 more, yes, I'm really sorry that money influence our future but we have to go through all this trouble to have our own life, I ask you to help me see you, my life, and if you could help me and send me this money we could meet and I could hold you, my David. I'm so embarrassed to ask you but I think I have to. I applied for a tourist visa(B-2) which allowes me to stay in the US for 90 days. I am off work for 42 days. But as I've told you I am ready to do everything for you. If you send me this money I'll put it on my account and show it. Then I'll take it back from the bank and give it back to you when I come to you so I need it just for few days and then you will have this sum when I come to you. I really want to be with you and I hope to see you soon. You see, I do not have enough money and if you can help me, please, I want to ask you for this sum. If you would send me this money we could make our dreams come true and I want it so much and I hope you want it too. If you can help me, please send me the money by Western Union, because we have it here and both my parents and Nataly sent me the money through this system. My name is ELENA GRITSENKO. I just need to know the money transfer control number and your full name and address to be sure. I slept at the train station in a rest lounge(special room), I didn't have a good rest as I worried that I wouldn't get a visa. A lot has been done to meet you and little time is left. I really count on you. Well, I hope to hear from you soon. I love you and I'm looking forward to our meeting. Yours sweet, Elena


Elena Revtova

I am a 38 year old divorced father who has custody of my 7 year old son. The letter I am attaching is from a young lady who responded to a Yahoo personals add I had. She has wrote me about 5 times this is the letter I received today. (June, 4 2004) I am sure this is a scam. I would like you to use this letter to show men everywhere that this is happening. I am not going to respond to this letter. But PLEASE use it on your website. I also have more pictures of her from previous e-mails. Thank you very much for your website this is the second lady who has tried this. The first lady started signing the wrong name after a month. when I asked why she went from Nataliya to Natasha she said it was the same. Needless to say her correspondence stopped.

Letters:

Hello my love!!! How are you today? I am so happy to read your emails, sorry for late responding. I like your picture very much. I think i love you so much you are very hansome man and i always dream about you. I told all about our relationships to my parents and they are very happy to see how i becoming more happy then was before you. I dont know what else i can tell you but my mind full of words of love and nothing else. Every day i hope that all its real and you are not just my imagination. My parents say you hello. I have some present for you from my parent. I cant wait our meeting and think about you every day. What about you ??? You are the man i am looking for. I was in travel agency to find out how i can get to fly to you. I hope we can make it, and i gave your email to travel agent and he promised me to send you all information about my trip. But there is one thing if we want to celebrate my birthday with you in your place , you should tell me tommorow will you help me or not, cause they will sell that cheap tickets and if we meet later it will cost much more for us and then later as they say it will be much more difficult to get tourist visa for 3 month i dont know why but they told me that. Think about it cause my family cant aford it for me, but you shouldnt worry i will give it back to you your money when we meet, cause i will work and can earn some money for you. I am sorry to tell that but iam realy want to be with you. I dont know what else i can tell you know everithing about me. Of course if i could i will ask all my friends to lend me some but i dont have any friends who can do it for me , please understand it, soory if it make you sad. I hope you will understand me right. I can speak with all day and night but its better to speak face to face that we can know each other better. Dont you think so. Ok now i give you a lot of kisses from me, and i give you my heart, and i belive in my dream to be with you soon. Your Elena Revtova Love you so much. Want to touch you and kiss you.!!! bye for now. PS I will be waiting for your replay tommorow all day.


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